[Arm-allstar-irlp] Important Info for all Hamvoip IRLP users

Justin Reed celltech161 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 21 10:08:44 EST 2020 

The only reason IRLP goons think IRLP is "more reliable" is because IRLP 
connections are completely stateless.

If the path between two nodes or between node and reflector breaks while 
the connection is up, there is no indication at all. You'd have to 
notice that you aren't getting any traffic from the far end. Most people 
would never know. Happened to me several times. You have to dump the 
connection and re-link to pick up a change of route or IP, etc. With 
Allstar, if the path goes away, Allstar detects it and retries until it 
hits the max retry or until it's re-established.

So anybody that says IRLP is more reliable just plain doesn't know what 
the hell they are talking about.

The biggest downfall of IRLP is the fact that it's creator is a 
tantrum-throwing child surrounded by fanbois.

Justin

NV8Q


On 1/20/2020 6:53 PM, "Richard Hyde via ARM-allstar-irlp" wrote:
> Fred
> W5MGM
>
> No thanks... I am destroying all of my IRLP boards. So nobody else has to
> go the the HELL I have been through. It is just too big of a hassle and you
> have no control of your own equipment. Alstarlink is far superior when it
> comes to connections! I've never had a connection drop on AlStarlink.
>
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 11:02 PM "David McGough via ARM-allstar-irlp" <
> arm-allstar-irlp at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
>> Fred,
>>
>> I'm curious as to what type of AllStar reliability issues you're having??
>> What nodes are not staying connected??
>>
>> How is IRLP more reliable than HamVoIP/AllStar?  I want to know, so that
>> if there are problems, I can try to fix them.
>>
>> As for theft of IRLP keys or anything else, WHO EXACTLY had their keys
>> stolen?? So far all I've heard are rumors, rumors and more rumors. No
>> actual cases. If you've got details about actual cases, tell me.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't doubt that perhaps some hams might have tried to
>> obtain NEW keys by supplying clip-art, where they didn't actually have
>> IRLP hardware.  WHO WERE THEY????  Again, all the evidence so far is
>> hearsay.  If Dave Cameron had a problem, he should just charge a key
>> transfer fee. Or, simply say no.
>>
>>
>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020, "Fred via ARM-allstar-irlp" wrote:
>>
>>> Richard,  if you want to get rid of your irlp board send it to me,  my
>> address is good on QRZ.     Dave Cameron has told you that he’d
>> reinstate your pgp keys if you put your node back on IRLP software.  Dave
>> took the drastic action of removing pgp keys from folks running Hamvoip
>> after seeing the same node number reporting twice to his servers because
>> there’s been some theft of keys from unsuspecting victims, and also
>> people different people sending him the same picture of an IRLP board
>> they’d supposedly bought at a hamfest trying to get pgp keys from him
>> for free.  If you don’t like IRLP good riddance.  I run IRLP and I run
>> Hamvoip allstar.    IRLP is a hell of a lot more reliable for keeping my
>> connections alive.
>>
>> Fred
>> W5MGM
>>
>> From: Richard Hyde via ARM-allstar-irlp
>> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:21 PM
>> To: arm-allstar-irlp at hamvoip.org
>> Cc: Richard Hyde
>> Subject: Re: [Arm-allstar-irlp] Important Info for all Hamvoip IRLP users
>>
>> I have went back and forth with IRLP Dave... sent him several emails Trying
>> to get my node reinstated. But had no luck. Even told him I’ve never had
>> any interference or problems.  And even stated that cross-linking has been
>> going on from the start even before IRLP. On my last email to him he
>> offered to reinstall my node and get it back up and running on his
>> equipment. (IRLP Board) And I said what’s the difference in me using your
>> equipment and cross-linking then using one board and one computer and doing
>> it all on one device.
>> And he quoted that hamvoip is not compatible..
>>
>> So now I debate on whether to make a YouTube video or not. How to get your
>> PGP keys working again. Grab the IRLP board take it outside lay it on the
>> concrete and smash it with a hammer. I will never keep up on our IRLP ever
>> again
>>
>> ‘73
>> www.KE4GJG.com
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:12 PM "N3vsi via ARM-allstar-irlp" <
>> arm-allstar-irlp at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>
>>> All about the BENJIMS
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> N3vsi
>>>
>>> On 1/15/20 5:28 PM, "Paul - KN2R via ARM-allstar-irlp" wrote:
>>>> Agreed, and also how are some HamVoIP nodes that were bridging to
>>> certain reflectors before for years, now after "The Purge", still allowed
>>> to bridge once again?  Did they pay more to buy their key back?  Why are
>>> they special?
>>>> Select AllStar nodes can still bridge an IRLP Reflector to many AllStar
>>> nodes, but a single IRLP node owner cannot bridge anything, one-on-one
>> IRLP
>>> only.   Junk it, not needed anymore!
>>>> Greatest thing is an AllStar IRLP node after "The Purge" still has
>>> AllStar!  No impact at all.
>>>> The 100% IRLP compatibility was nice, for years actually, until they
>>> targeted HamVoIP.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ARM-allstar-irlp [mailto:arm-allstar-irlp-bounces at hamvoip.org]
>> On
>>> Behalf Of "wl7lp via ARM-allstar-irlp"
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 2:35 AM
>>>> To: arm-allstar-irlp at hamvoip.org
>>>> Cc: wl7lp
>>>> Subject: Re: [Arm-allstar-irlp] Important Info for all Hamvoip IRLP
>> users
>>>> What I'd like to know is why Hamvoip IRLP node was singled out and  all
>>> the ASL irlp bridged nodes are still up and running connected to IRLP
>>> reflectors?
>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>>>
>>>>
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